Conversation With Our Contractor (or… Enough With the Hurricane Stuff Already…)
December 14th, 2008 by Connie | 3 Comments | Filed in New Plan, real estate
Last week, the mister and I decided to make an offer on this place.
Asking Price: 40K
Tax Value: 92K
After Repair Value: 80K
3 bedrooms, 2 bathrooms, 1 car garage
1600 sq. ft.
We decided to offer 30K cash budgeting 25-30K for repairs with 3 months holding costs. After much discussion which involved hand waving, number crunching and the employment of latent powers of prognostication, a call was placed to our contractor, Frank, to see if his crew could schedule the heavy grunt work anytime in the near future. Uhhhh… not so much.
Frank then proceeded to tell little me the Facts of Life. Or at least, the facts of life related to construction in a post-hurricane zone.
- He has a backlog of 23 hurricane damaged homes awaiting his loving attention.
- Everyone else he knows of any credibility has the same or more depending on their proximity to the coast.
- There are plenty of storm chasers around without credibility so be careful.
- Prices for labor are through the roof… literally. Roofers are charging 3 times their usual rate. His assessment went something like this… Pre-Ike, Susie Homeowner could call 3 roofers and expect 3 competitive bids. Now, Susie can call 3 roofers and not get so much as a return phone call. Competition is zero. Roofers are getting nice, fat insurance checks and they like that very much, thanks.
- All other contractor pricing is experiencing a similar artificial hike. So, dear mrs, just go ahead and triple your usual estimate for repairs and that would be *after* placing your name on a waiting list and waiting months as homeowners who need their primary residence repaired get priority over investors. So there.
So (says I), how long before things get back to normal? Three months? Six months maybe? No (says Frank), Count on another surge of calls from desperate homeowners in 6-9 months when the storm chasers and newbie contractors walk off leaving homes unfinished, taking the money and running off to the next disaster area. Then another year or more mopping up the mess.
Bummer…
Which Means…
This seriously messes up The Plan as A) the mister has a fulltime Big Boy job which needs careful attention during this recession and B) most homes need work… lots of work… both from the general malaise suffered by most foreclosures as well as hurricane damage and C) this will slow our timeline and D) increase our holding costs and E) did I mention that the mrs can’t swing a hammer? And all but the youngest of the child labor force is off doing grown-up stuff?
Big, big bummer…
So…
No offer on the house above. We’re refiguring everything in light of this new info, which I should’ve known already as this is the second major hurricane to hit our area in the last 3 years.
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