The mister and I married on a hot July afternoon in the summer of ’80. Soon thereafter, our area slid into the ugliest recession ever to hit this part of Texas. If you’re old enough to remember the Savings and Loan Scandal, you might know first hand what that decade was like.
Houston was a virtual ghost town of empty skyscrapers. Strip centers became empty shells as business after business failed. Every neighborhood was dotted with empty homes that stayed that way for years. For cheap fun, the mister and I would sit in the backyard at night and shoot rats off the telephone line as they ran back and forth between abandoned houses.
Our Story Begins…
By the time I graduated from nursing school, the dream of owning our own place had begun to recede further and further into the distance. During those early years, we worked hard and saved and dreamed and prayed. We wanted a little house with a yard for a dog and flowerbeds for petunias and an extra room for a baby. I remember obsessively calling FSBO ads, talking to real estate agents and watching the ever-worsening market.
Back in the olden days, a body needed established credit and a down payment. We had neither. We couldn’t get credit because we didn’t *have* credit, a hamster-wheel conundrum that endlessly frustrated our plans. I’ll never forget the day we danced like banshees because the local department store had agreed to sell us a new mattress on time. We made those $65/month payments one by one, then started applying for a credit card. When our Mastercard arrived, we sat on the bed staring at it like the Holy Grail, then tucked it away in a fireproof box for safe keeping.
Remembering the Bad Old Days
Folks tend to forget that once upon a time, interest rates for homes were in the double digits. Even if you managed to save enough for a down payment (usually a full 20 percent) the sky-high interest rates meant most young couples were completely priced out of the market. Very, very few could afford the monthly note no matter how small the house. The only open path to affordable payments meant assuming an older FHA loan and paying a large chunk of cash for someone else’s equity.
We’d just about given up when we heard a rumor that someone from our church was loaning money to young couples like us to help them get a start. I can’t imagine how we swallowed our pride long enough to go for a visit, but eventually we found ourselves in the living room of Dave and Kay Hartman. When we arrived, Dave told us they’d prayed together before we came and would loan us $7000…
Interest free.
Hard to Believe…
At the time, I couldn’t fathom having enough money to write a $7000 check to virtual strangers with nothing but a promise of repayment and a handshake. And who in their right mind would even want to? But Dave and Kay embodied the very definition of saint– the sort that’s rare as it is genuine. They were folks who saw a need and provided a solution just because they could. Through their dozens of loans, the Hartmans sowed seeds of generosity and kindness into the heart of the next generation.
God bless ‘em.
With their help, we bought our first home, paying $11,000 for the equity and assuming the balance of a 14% FHA loan on a $48,500 purchase price. It was quite a deal at the time. Our little piece of the American Dream was 3 bedrooms, 2 baths crammed into 900 square feet. We were beyond ecstatic.
Things change.
I’d all but forgotten those years of struggle and longing, of wanting my own place to remodel and paint and plant. But about a year ago, we started getting calls in the office from folks who saw our ads, wanting to know if we had homes for sale and wondering if we might owner finance. Lately, those calls have become more frequent, more urgent. In their voices, I hear the same, familiar chorus. We’ve always felt that someday we’d offer homes for sale, but I’m thinking the time may be now.
So Here’s Where We’re At…
Honest to goodness, I have no idea just how this is going to work, but this path needs exploration. Maybe it doesn’t make the best economic sense, but not all things can be balanced on a spreadsheet. After compulsively running the numbers over the last few weeks, even at the worst case scenario, we should do okay. The potential is there to do much better than okay, but it’s not something we can count on considering the current situation, both national and local.
Our old plan involved buying 20 houses by the time the mister retires with half mortgage-free. That would’ve given us a very healthy retirement income. We have some cash now earmarked for down payments and rehab money. A change of direction would mean that this portion of our business would go on hold and the cash we have now would be invested in The New Plan.
Here’s a very basic outline that I hope to expand upon in future blog posts:
- We’ll start by buying homes in the 20K range. In our area, this is possible although not common. At that price point, we’re talking 2/1/1 fixers with ‘potential.’
- Rehab would have to be kept to a minimum. This would be a *huge* departure from previous experience. We’d try to keep the total cash in the deal to 30K or less.
- Sell for at least twice that amount. Here, a 2/1/1 that’s habitable, even if ugly and in need of some repairs can easily sell for 60K-70K. The price would need to be high enough to make a decent profit, but not so high that the owners couldn’t re-fi in a few years.
- Owner finance. We’re talking a straight deal with low down (perhaps increased payments for the first year to increase the down payment) but no lease-to-own , wraps or other fancy stuff. Just a 20 -30 year fixed interest mortgage. Current Texas law makes the fancy shenanigans almost impossible anyway and our restrictive investor environment means that a huge number of Texas working class families are once again being priced right out of the market.
- Charge a higher than average interest rate. It would need to be high enough to encourage buyers to work on their credit and re-fi in 2-3 years.
- Encourage the new owners to build equity through home improvements.
- Keep all income in the same pot. No drawing anything from this venture for possibly 10+ years, allowing the payments to accumulate to continue buying and owner financing more homes.
Final Thoughts
Right now, people are afraid. Economically it looks like we’re really in for it, maybe much worse than the ‘80’s. No one knows for sure, but indicators look bad. Very Bad.
The mister and I aren’t really worried. We’re doing fine thanks, and truthfully, we know how to profit during the coming hard times. But is that really what’s most important? Is our own comfort and prosperity really all that matters? Believe me, I’m no socialist and I have absolutely no compunction against wealth, mine or anyone else’s for that matter.
And as much as I hate to agree with Jimmy Carter on anything, home ownership is one of the foundational principles of our way of life. Our ancestors came here for land and freedom. I don’t like what I see coming economically in the years ahead. I don’t like the idea of far-away investors with deep pockets coming to my town and buying up the empty homes. I don’t like the idea of what this place will become if the dookie really hits the fan. And I *really* don’t like to think what my community will be like if a huge segment of working Americans lose hope of ever owning their own place
So maybe if the mister and I buy two or three homes and owner finance, it won’t make much of a difference. But what if other investors chose to follow this model? What if real estate investors from all over joined together to do something to save our neighborhoods, our towns, our communities? What if we could convince a few of our better-off neighbors to do the same, even if they’d never considered REI before? What if we could convince them to loan out that 50K they’ve got tucked away in the bank making 3% and improve their return to 10% or more? What if we could show people that by helping each other, we can also help ourselves?
What if?
Okay-I know this is sketchy, but it’s a bit hard to cram weeks of rumination into one blog entry and I just didn’t want to throw this out until we’d spent plenty of time thinking things through and felt certain we were heading this direction.
The floor is now open for discussion.
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It’s no secret that it’s better to be the bank.
Is this something you’ve done before or are just considering?
You may want to do this with 1 or 2 homes, just as a test and see what the results are. Who knows? This could really blossom into something big!
From my standpoint, I don’t want to consider “owner financing” because the equity is needed to roll into larger projects.
My initial reaction is that you are both too early and too late.
Like you, I think we are “in for it” in a big way. The banking system appears to be on the verge of collapse, we are pouring money into Iraq (not a political comment, just a financial one), and as individals and as a nation we have no spending or investment discipline. 2008 could be a repeat of 1929, and we could be in for a depression, not a recession.
Today the problem is that employed people that do not have excellent credit and a good down payment cannot buy. But the unemployment, vacancy and house price deflation that accompany a recession or depression have not happened yet. I’m pretty sure that they are coming - we are starting to see the job losses in the company announcements headlined in the newspapers and in the labor statistics.
I don’t think I want to be the lender for people that are very likely to lose their jobs in the next two years. Even if my buyer/borrowers don’t lose their jobs, house prices are likely to go down and lending standards and interest rates are likely to go up. There is an excellent chance these people may not be able to refinance and if values go down significantly, they may walk away, leaving you the devalued house.
These are the reasons for thinking you are too early. The reasons for thinking you are too late have to do with some fundamental shifts in our society.
I’m not sure how you define your target “working class” market. To me, what was “working class” in 1980 has all but disappeared. All the manufacturing jobs with stability and benefits are gone. What’s left are unstable, low paying service jobs with minimal benefits. Not what you as a lender want to see on a loan application.
The other changes are social. Successful home ownership to a large extent is tied to family stability. There is a lot less of that than there was in 1980. In addition, there seems to be a change in how people value committment and honoring their obligations. Bad behavior is rationalized and excused, not considered unacceptable. Not a good trend if you are loaning money.
Because of these changes, I would have to study my market carefully before moving forward with this project. My objective would be to see if the pool of qualified potential buyers was large enough to make this endeavor feasible. I would look at my tenants to see if I would feel comfortable being their lender instead of their landlord. I would evaluate everyone that called asking about buying instead of renting. I would look at everyone in the financial position of my target market I encountered at work and at church - two places I would know people well enough to have an opinion about them as borrowers.
Unless I concluded that there was a solid market for my houses and my loans, I would not consider moving forward with the “buy to sell” plan. Eviction is cheaper and faster than foreclosure, and there are fewer consequences for all parties.
If I did conclude that there was a market niche for what I wanted to do, I might consider buying some of these $20,000 houses with limited improvement budgets if I could rent them profitably for several years in a severe recession. As we work our way through this difficult period, I would consider selling the houses on terms once employment stabilized.
Right now, I am more focused on the preservation of capital than on making new investments. That 3 percent return on cash may not look bad in a few years and it provides a big fluffy cushion should things get much worse. Where it’s feasible to pay off a mortgage, that could be a better investment as well. It increases your cash flow today and reduces your risk in the period of reduced rents and high vacancy that may be coming.
Any other ruminators out there?
I like the direction you are moving. I really like the idea of helping buyers get into a house they might not otherwise be able to purchase.
Clifford- No, we haven’t done this before, but the decision is made to head in this direction s-l-o-w-l-y
What will actually come of it’s anyone’s guess~
AI– First, I *love* your comments. You’ve always got so much insight into both the situation investment-wise as well as the human factor.
And I totally agree with everything you wrote– in my head
I think the thing to do is proceed very slowly with extreme caution. We may never get from A to Z. But as long as we don’t over-extend we should be fine although there’s certainly no guarantee of success.
I’m loving your insight into (what amounts to) multiple exit strategies– i.e. being prepared to rent these homes for a few years if necessary. We’re certainly set up for that, but it hadn’t crossed my mind.
Terry–What are you’re thoughts on this type of transaction? I know things are much different in Arizona than Texas, but I’d love to know if you’ve had any experience with this type of thing.
Specifically– if we’re severely limiting the rehab budget, what would you focus on? Roof and paint? Making the house habitable (electric, plumbing?)?
Theres a lot to consider here but I like your direction. Definitely one to consider.
Looking forward to more.
Maria
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Good idea (I hope)! My wife and I are planning to move to Dallas soon. I hope to become a teacher and fix up real estate in my spare time. One thing that has troubled me however. I see a slight moral problem in owning homes for rent. The reason is, as we all know, real estate makes a great investment. This increases demand and therefore price. I believe there are many people who could afford the value of a home, but not a house because they cannot afford the value of the investment. My idea is to buy houses in such bad shape they have no value as a home, and fix them up as if I was going to make it my home. Then rent is at below market, but profitable prices. I like your idea however. It seems a good way to help people while still making a profit.
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I truly admire you, your courage, spirit & genuineness. The universe has been good to you and will continue to do so with the plan to help home buyers as you were helped this is the law of the universe.
As for you not liking far way investors buying up real estate that is apart of our karma too how do you believe Native Americans & black Americans felt when “OUR ANCESTORS CAME HERE FOR LAND & FREEDOM”. It’s all relative….you will do fine with your new plan to assist just as you were once assisted.
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